R: Moving svnbook repository [and tracker [and wiki [and discussion]]] to Google Code

Brian W. Fitzpatrick fitz at red-bean.com
Thu Sep 25 08:18:42 CDT 2008


You are mistaken.  You just need a Google account, which you can associate
with any email address.

-Fitz

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM, C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato at red-bean.com>wrote:

> An email with instructions is pretty much a given.  What is *not* is the
> Google account creation.  Unless I'm mistaken, Google code requires
> committers to have a Google (@gmail.com) account.  So every committer
> would
> need to create such an account and request membership in the new project.
> I'm pretty sure that the project admins can't do that for you.  (Well,
> maybe
> they can invite folks to the project, but they certainly can't setup the
> actual Google account.)
>
>
> Matteo Tontini wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I don't see any problem in the migration. It could be worth to have an
> > email forwarded to
> > these old mailing lists to have exact instructions about how to checkout
> > our new working copy (e.g. will our account be cloned to the new google
> > code project?).
> > Thank you for the information.
> >
> > Matteo Tontini
> >
> >
> > --- *Mer 24/9/08, C. Michael Pilato /<cmpilato at red-bean.com>/* ha
> scritto:
> >
> >     Da: C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato at red-bean.com>
> >     Oggetto: Moving svnbook repository [and tracker [and wiki [and
> >     discussion]]] to Google Code
> >     A: "SVNBook Developers" <svnbook-dev at red-bean.com>
> >     Cc: l10n-ru at subversion.tigris.org, svn-pt_br at red-bean.com,
> >     l10n-es at subversion.tigris.org, "Svn-It-mail List" <
> svn-it at red-bean.com>
> >     Data: Mercoledì 24 settembre 2008, 19:10
> >
> >     A few weeks ago, Fitz proposed relocating the svnbook source code
> repository
> >     to Google Code.  I don't recall any dissent.  But then, I don't
> recall
> >     any
> >     assent, either.  :-P
> >
> >     Here's the situation.  Today at red-bean.com we have all the tools
> we need
> >     to run this open source project.  We've got the repository, an issue
> >     tracker
> >     (Trac), wikis (Trac, MoinMoin), a mailing list (Mailman), etc.
>  Sadly,
> >     though, the tracker and primary wiki are effectively closed to
> >     non-committers (you can't edit without an account, and you can't get
> an
> >     account without manual administrator intervention).  And
> committership is
> >     still managed by hand edits to htpasswd files and such.  Finally,
> >     red-bean.com itself has had some reliability issues over the past
> few months
> >     that -- while seemingly resolved at the moment -- could crop up
> >      again
> >     unexpectedly.
> >
> >     It's this last point that (I believe) is Fitz's primary concern.
> >     It's the
> >     previous ones -- specifically the inaccessibility of the issue
> tracker and
> >     wiki -- that are mine.  A migration to Google Code of the repository,
> issue
> >     tracking, wiki, etc. is believed to be a solution to all those
> problems.
> >     Fitz originally indicated that if he didn't hear dissent, he'd
> >     undertake
> >     this migration, so technically your chance to speak up has come and
> gone.
> >     But Fitz is short on time, so he's handed off to me on this.  And as
> this
> >     will affect not just the book authors but all the translation teams
> as well,
> >     I wanted to make doubly sure that folks were in favor of (or at least
> >     indifferent to) this change.
> >
> >     NOTE:  My primary concerns are probably addressable in other ways.  I
> have
> >     to believe that Trac has a better authn/authz subsystem (perhaps in a
> >     third-party module) now than it did in the version
> >      we originally deployed.
> >     Of course, that won't alleviate Fitz's primary concerns.
> >
> >     Also, as a secondary matter, there's the question of the mailing
> list.  Do
> >     we continue to use svnbook-dev at red-bean.com, or should we move
> discussion to
> >     svnbook-dev at googlegroups.com (which the former forwarding mail to
> the
> >     latter)?  I really like the web accessibility of Google Groups,
> especially
> >     since I'm not a mail hoarder.  Finally, I'm betting that we'd get
> >     better
> >     spam protection from Google Groups than we have now (which is easy,
> since we
> >     have none).  But do others have a preference?
> >
> >     One final word:  I personally hope that a move to Google Code -- and
> the
> >     easier administration that allows -- will encourage some of the
> translation
> >     teams who are working elsewhere to consider re-centering their
> efforts in
> >     the same place that the English work is done.  There's no reason why
> one
> >     issue tracker or Wiki can't carry the artifacts
> >      for all the translations.
> >     Additionally, there've been some constructive criticisms leveraged
> lately
> >     about the repository layout and general processes being
> disproportionately
> >     English-version-centric -- let's iron those issues out, okay?
> >
> >     --
> >     C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato at red-bean.com> |
> http://cmpilato.blogspot.com/
> >
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