R: Moving svnbook repository [and tracker [and wiki [and discussion]]] to Google Code

C. Michael Pilato cmpilato at red-bean.com
Thu Sep 25 08:14:12 CDT 2008

An email with instructions is pretty much a given.  What is *not* is the
Google account creation.  Unless I'm mistaken, Google code requires
committers to have a Google (@gmail.com) account.  So every committer would
need to create such an account and request membership in the new project.
I'm pretty sure that the project admins can't do that for you.  (Well, maybe
they can invite folks to the project, but they certainly can't setup the
actual Google account.)

Matteo Tontini wrote:
> Hello,
> I don't see any problem in the migration. It could be worth to have an
> email forwarded to
> these old mailing lists to have exact instructions about how to checkout
> our new working copy (e.g. will our account be cloned to the new google
> code project?).
> Thank you for the information.
> Matteo Tontini
> --- *Mer 24/9/08, C. Michael Pilato /<cmpilato at red-bean.com>/* ha scritto:
>     Da: C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato at red-bean.com>
>     Oggetto: Moving svnbook repository [and tracker [and wiki [and
>     discussion]]] to Google Code
>     A: "SVNBook Developers" <svnbook-dev at red-bean.com>
>     Cc: l10n-ru at subversion.tigris.org, svn-pt_br at red-bean.com,
>     l10n-es at subversion.tigris.org, "Svn-It-mail List" <svn-it at red-bean.com>
>     Data: Mercoledì 24 settembre 2008, 19:10
>     A few weeks ago, Fitz proposed relocating the svnbook source code repository
>     to Google Code.  I don't recall any dissent.  But then, I don't recall
>     any
>     assent, either.  :-P
>     Here's the situation.  Today at red-bean.com we have all the tools we need
>     to run this open source project.  We've got the repository, an issue
>     tracker
>     (Trac), wikis (Trac, MoinMoin), a mailing list (Mailman), etc.  Sadly,
>     though, the tracker and primary wiki are effectively closed to
>     non-committers (you can't edit without an account, and you can't get an
>     account without manual administrator intervention).  And committership is
>     still managed by hand edits to htpasswd files and such.  Finally,
>     red-bean.com itself has had some reliability issues over the past few months
>     that -- while seemingly resolved at the moment -- could crop up
>      again
>     unexpectedly.
>     It's this last point that (I believe) is Fitz's primary concern. 
>     It's the
>     previous ones -- specifically the inaccessibility of the issue tracker and
>     wiki -- that are mine.  A migration to Google Code of the repository, issue
>     tracking, wiki, etc. is believed to be a solution to all those problems.
>     Fitz originally indicated that if he didn't hear dissent, he'd
>     undertake
>     this migration, so technically your chance to speak up has come and gone.
>     But Fitz is short on time, so he's handed off to me on this.  And as this
>     will affect not just the book authors but all the translation teams as well,
>     I wanted to make doubly sure that folks were in favor of (or at least
>     indifferent to) this change.
>     NOTE:  My primary concerns are probably addressable in other ways.  I have
>     to believe that Trac has a better authn/authz subsystem (perhaps in a
>     third-party module) now than it did in the version
>      we originally deployed.
>     Of course, that won't alleviate Fitz's primary concerns.
>     Also, as a secondary matter, there's the question of the mailing list.  Do
>     we continue to use svnbook-dev at red-bean.com, or should we move discussion to
>     svnbook-dev at googlegroups.com (which the former forwarding mail to the
>     latter)?  I really like the web accessibility of Google Groups, especially
>     since I'm not a mail hoarder.  Finally, I'm betting that we'd get
>     better
>     spam protection from Google Groups than we have now (which is easy, since we
>     have none).  But do others have a preference?
>     One final word:  I personally hope that a move to Google Code -- and the
>     easier administration that allows -- will encourage some of the translation
>     teams who are working elsewhere to consider re-centering their efforts in
>     the same place that the English work is done.  There's no reason why one
>     issue tracker or Wiki can't carry the artifacts
>      for all the translations.
>     Additionally, there've been some constructive criticisms leveraged lately
>     about the repository layout and general processes being disproportionately
>     English-version-centric -- let's iron those issues out, okay?
>     -- 
>     C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato at red-bean.com> | http://cmpilato.blogspot.com/
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