<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hello,<br><br>I don't see any problem in the migration. It could be worth to have an email forwarded to<br>these old mailing lists to have exact instructions about how to checkout our new working copy (e.g. will our account be cloned to the new google code project?).<br>Thank you for the information.<br><br>Matteo Tontini<br><br><br>--- <b>Mer 24/9/08, C. Michael Pilato <i><firstname.lastname@example.org></i></b> ha scritto:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">Da: C. Michael Pilato <email@example.com><br>Oggetto: Moving svnbook repository [and tracker [and wiki [and discussion]]] to Google Code<br>A: "SVNBook Developers" <firstname.lastname@example.org><br>Cc: email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com, "Svn-It-mail List"
<firstname.lastname@example.org><br>Data: Mercoledì 24 settembre 2008, 19:10<br><br><pre>A few weeks ago, Fitz proposed relocating the svnbook source code repository<br>to Google Code. I don't recall any dissent. But then, I don't recall<br>any<br>assent, either. :-P<br><br>Here's the situation. Today at red-bean.com we have all the tools we need<br>to run this open source project. We've got the repository, an issue<br>tracker<br>(Trac), wikis (Trac, MoinMoin), a mailing list (Mailman), etc. Sadly,<br>though, the tracker and primary wiki are effectively closed to<br>non-committers (you can't edit without an account, and you can't get an<br>account without manual administrator intervention). And committership is<br>still managed by hand edits to htpasswd files and such. Finally,<br>red-bean.com itself has had some reliability issues over the past few months<br>that -- while seemingly resolved at the moment -- could crop up
again<br>unexpectedly.<br><br>It's this last point that (I believe) is Fitz's primary concern. <br>It's the<br>previous ones -- specifically the inaccessibility of the issue tracker and<br>wiki -- that are mine. A migration to Google Code of the repository, issue<br>tracking, wiki, etc. is believed to be a solution to all those problems.<br>Fitz originally indicated that if he didn't hear dissent, he'd<br>undertake<br>this migration, so technically your chance to speak up has come and gone.<br>But Fitz is short on time, so he's handed off to me on this. And as this<br>will affect not just the book authors but all the translation teams as well,<br>I wanted to make doubly sure that folks were in favor of (or at least<br>indifferent to) this change.<br><br>NOTE: My primary concerns are probably addressable in other ways. I have<br>to believe that Trac has a better authn/authz subsystem (perhaps in a<br>third-party module) now than it did in the version
we originally deployed.<br>Of course, that won't alleviate Fitz's primary concerns.<br><br>Also, as a secondary matter, there's the question of the mailing list. Do<br>we continue to use email@example.com, or should we move discussion to<br>firstname.lastname@example.org (which the former forwarding mail to the<br>latter)? I really like the web accessibility of Google Groups, especially<br>since I'm not a mail hoarder. Finally, I'm betting that we'd get<br>better<br>spam protection from Google Groups than we have now (which is easy, since we<br>have none). But do others have a preference?<br><br>One final word: I personally hope that a move to Google Code -- and the<br>easier administration that allows -- will encourage some of the translation<br>teams who are working elsewhere to consider re-centering their efforts in<br>the same place that the English work is done. There's no reason why one<br>issue tracker or Wiki can't carry the artifacts
for all the translations.<br>Additionally, there've been some constructive criticisms leveraged lately<br>about the repository layout and general processes being disproportionately<br>English-version-centric -- let's iron those issues out, okay?<br><br>-- <br>C. Michael Pilato <email@example.com> | http://cmpilato.blogspot.com/<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>svn-it mailing list<br>firstname.lastname@example.org<br>http://www.red-bean.com/mailman/listinfo/svn-it<br></pre></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi <br>http://mail.yahoo.it